ludo21
1:25 Thu Aug 17
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Surely someone needs to turn up to work to get paid?
If a player says he's injured then it should be assessed by a medical team (independent if necessary) and if he is declared fit but still refuses to 'work' then he doesn't get paid.
Surely all that is in a footballers contract? Whole industry is a joke.
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BRANDED
12:35 Thu Aug 17
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Not sure it would be legal to ban people. Its a work contract. Both sides need to be happy with it for it to function properly. There should always be a buyout clause and if not it starts to go against the employer.
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El Scorchio
12:32 Thu Aug 17
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Dave Boozle 12:15
I'd love to see clubs standing firm and just making a troublesome player sit out the rest of his contract not doing anything. Nothing wrong with that- after all he signed the contract.
Only trouble is most clubs cant afford this now as they need the wages free for this stupid FFP rule, and with player wages, how can you justify throwing 100 grand a week down the toilet on a player who won't play?
What it needs is a Chelsea or Man City to do it- a club with real bottomless pockets. That might change things. Although no doubt the poor little lamb of a player will run to some court of justice and a ruling will come out saying the club aren't allowed to keep him but not playing because it's an infringement on his human rights or something, thus giving even more power to the players.
As for Lanzini, I fucking hope he's injured and not being difficult. It'd be a bitter pill to swallow losing him in similar circumstances to Payet, especially if we took less than 30-40 million for him.
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REALGSA
12:15 Thu Aug 17
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Lanzini still has not signed a contract
Is FIT
And is not playing....
They are waiting for the £20 million bid and sell him.
Personally I would not take less than £80 mill in todays market
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Dave Boozle
12:15 Thu Aug 17
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We're seeing that with Costa I guess. It could get messy legally whereby a player is banned from playing - not sure how long Costa has left on his contract but a lengthy ban from football could dissuade player power.
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BRANDED
11:48 Thu Aug 17
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Strictly speaking. Any player can decide. They will come up against it but you can lose a lot as a club if you try and stop a player against their will. If they want to play for a better lib or more money or move back to their home town or wives they will go.
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Sniper
11:43 Thu Aug 17
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Alex
Was listening to radio 5 live last night on my way out and they were discussing player behaviour. It was in relation to arsenal and Wenger basically saying he'd rather run down Sanchez and the ox's contracts than cash in.
The point made was that selling clubs have all the power now as nobody in the premier league really needs the money - hence things like Johnny Evans being worth more than £18m.
So there was then the discussion of the rise of the agent/player forcin through a move - either by refusing to play, or by feigning injury. The list of mysteriously unavailable players being linked with moves away from clubs is long this year - coutinho and Sanchez included although I still worry that's the root cause of Lanzini' 'injury'
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Dave Boozle
11:29 Thu Aug 17
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The longer Coutinho doesn't go to Barcelona the more we benefit? Only two weeks to the deadline now.
Either he goes late and they have to pay an inflated price for Lanzini as we won't have time for a replacement or Coutinho does stay and so does Lanzini. The domino effect grows day by day.
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Alex V
3:05 Fri Aug 11
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>>> Not everyone has to act like Payet did when he left.
True. But a lot of players effectively do. Our recent signings Snodgrass, Fonte and Arnautovic seemed to fall out with their clubs to come to us. The difference imo is that with Payet we went very public with it.
I do think that Sullivan is so reluctant to sell players that if a first team player wanted to leave us the only way to really do it is to force the issue somehow. On occasions that's a good thing, but we have to accept that the sort of players we're targetting want to use the club as a stepping stone. If it becomes clear that they can't it makes us a less attractive option. No mercenary wants to join a club they can't ever leave.
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Swiss.
2:51 Fri Aug 11
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So is he really injured or off to Liverpool?
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scott_d
2:49 Fri Aug 11
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If Liverpool however hold firm and keep Coutinho, could Barcelona come in for Lanzini!?!
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scott_d
2:48 Fri Aug 11
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could he do a Payet and leave?
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Not everyone has to act like Payet did when he left. It is possible to leave the club on good terms. Many have in the past.
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Ron Greensward
2:21 Fri Aug 11
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Straight swap with Sane or not at all.
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violator
2:12 Fri Aug 11
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Coutinho just handed in a transfer request, brace yourself Rodney...
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collyrob
5:55 Tue Aug 8
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Russ of the BML 4:54 Tue Aug 8
So who's the top 10 attacking midfielders who'd be interested in going to liverpool ?
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RBshorty
5:22 Tue Aug 8
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Riot in Liverpool.
Would anyone notice.?
Or care.
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Russ of the BML
4:54 Tue Aug 8
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If Liverpool sold Coutinho (who I think is over-rated anyway) and then bought Lanzini to replace him there'd be a fucking riot in Liverpool.
Yes, they could sell Coutinho but they would be looking at replacing him with anyone from the top ten of attacking midfielders in the world.
Lanzini, as good as he is for us, is nowhere near that area.
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Willtell
11:39 Tue Aug 8
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Of course Liverpool COULD buy Lanzini if WH want to sell him and Liverpool are prepared to pay enough no-one would blame him for moving on.
Lanzini is a special player but I don't think he's quite there yet and he will get better with WH imo...
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,
11:11 Tue Aug 8
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As players have said before, James Beattie as I recall, loyalty is entirely a fan thing, especially at PL level. Lanzini is not at full potential yet because there is more to come from him and frankly I can see him developing to a level where he is too good to be playing for us. Realistically any player in a middling PL team who is stand out better than his colleagues will be enticed to one of the very top PL clubs.
All I ask of a player of ours is that he gives his all for our cause and acts respectfully towards fans and club. If Liverpool do make an offer for Lanzini which the club accepts who can blame him for taking a rise in pay to play for a better owned, coached, managed club that will be contesting the CL this season.
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Dan M
10:33 Tue Aug 8
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As I said on the summer transfer thread, there's a lot you can sling at the owners, but asset-stripping the team isn't one of them. Have a think about the players we've sold since they've been here - how many have been fan favourites jettisoned because Gollivan wanted to cash in?
I'll give you a reminder of the top sales.
Payet - £25m - held to ransom by one club with the player on strike
Tomkins - £10m - not in the manager's plans
Fletcher - £6.5m - non-scoring youngster
Parker - £5.5m - Tottenham fan fleeing a sunk ship and not in new manager's plans
Maybe Liverpool will bid and he gets sold. But that's not based on what's happened before, because it simply hasn't. Saying we'll definitely sell because of whatever hilarious all-capital epithets you always use is just agenda-laden spaff.
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Sydney_Iron
8:32 Tue Aug 8
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Fucking hell, some of you need to get a reality check….
Liverpool don’t want to lose Courtinio in fact they are desperate for him to stay no matter how much dosh is offered, nor did Barcelona want to let Neymar go, but contract or not if a player has his heart set on leaving a club, its pretty much impossible to block it in the end.
YET plenty here will slag and blame and cunt off the owners if Lanzini does likewise in this chain of events.
Ironic really that we just signed a player from Stoke who pretty much ignored the fact he had a contract and made it clear he had no desire to stay and join us instead no matter what the club and manager did to get him to stay, how many Stoke fans cunted and blamed there owners???? A tiny no nothing minority perhaps……….all there venom was at the player who they basically see as betraying them.
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